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dear all,
I've just completed uploading two youtube vids and i'm sure the subject matter will appeal to some here....
www.youtube.com/watch
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if you do enjoy please tell others
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GM23
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Re: ancient diagrams... modern interpretations
Sun, April 6, 2008 - 9:58 PMWhoaaa. Very nicely done!
5 stars from me :)
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Mon, April 7, 2008 - 8:37 AMi prefer a pear... but to each his own delicious fruits... :]
beautiful video... i think it recaps my religion in a stunning and concise way, great job....
...love the part about the swastika, ever read "the gentle swastika"
the only discrepancy i have is in the final image with the ''from one, you" part, possible in a next video you could go into some depth about how the you is created from the one.... the shape of you comes from an inital one, but only throught the the meeting of one and one, example, mother and father, flower and pollen, planet and comet, positron and electron, or the devine shape of the tree of life... 1+1=3...thats something ive been drawing and painting alot the divine shape of the trinity.... and the great divide... cant help but have it on my mind all the time....
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Mon, April 7, 2008 - 12:32 PMhi I'm glad you like...
this has become the only way I can share the beautiful images that the lights showed me... as it happens I'm just putting the finishing touches to pt three.. 'truth' should be uploaded later this week... then just one more and I'm done... it however is called WARNING...
interestig you should raise the tree of life as this next video finishes with the Lote Tree, the source of all knowledge as revealed to Muhammad a rasullah Allah (the messenger of Allah) during his ascension to the seven Heavens.. and also what I believe the 43rd Step is... some call it 2012, some the day of judgement... but for me its the final part of G-d's great plan.. and all are welcome to step into Paradise... you have come this far.. just three more steps
Pears are perhaps my fav fruit too but in Pakistan the swat valley peaches are like cricket balls and so juicy you have to lean forward when you eat them... ummmmmmmmmmmmmm
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Re: ancient diagrams... modern interpretations
Wed, April 9, 2008 - 4:33 PMpart three is now up
www.youtube.com/watch
it may also be of interest to those posting in the 'space curve' thread
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Fri, April 18, 2008 - 12:43 PMhi,
the fourth and final part is now uploaded
www.youtube.com/watch
it isthe shortest and perhaps the most important
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Fri, April 18, 2008 - 1:36 PMso when are the cern gonna be achieving the finale stuff...? -
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Re: ancient diagrams... modern interpretations
Tue, July 21, 2009 - 6:02 AMi came across these nice little programs whilst searching out the bronze mean.....
the shapes are very very very similar to the ones in my vids.....
www.maydi.org.ar/jma/jma-soft/
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Tue, July 21, 2009 - 7:30 AMgood find, i like these programs a lot, thanks. -
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Tue, July 21, 2009 - 8:54 AMNice thread... Thanks. -
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Tue, July 21, 2009 - 12:01 PMgreenman, those programs are brilliant! it actually lends some credence to my own ideas about scale being recursive.
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Re: ancient diagrams... modern interpretations
Wed, July 22, 2009 - 1:11 AMhi takeshi...
you say (propose that) "scale is recursive"
umm... what you mean?
my question pertains to my gut feeling that not only space expands(actuall I call it a fracturing process since the expansion is an increase in internal dimensions not external) but so does time...
thus what we currently experience as an hour was once only a minute.... as A consequence when one then looks back one supposes that the past time events were longer than they actually were!
if correct it offers the opportunity to harmonize religious perspectives (i.e 7 days of creation) with scientific (700,000 years till light unbound).. one perspective based on time as experienced (religious) the other as time percieved (scientific)
the idea that time is not constant is by no means radical... its a well known fact that the faster a body moves the less time it percieves compared to a 'stationary' body (since nothing in this universe is without momentum the concept of stationary is just that.. a concept and not a reality!)..... the same rule likely applies to past events but as we only exist in the present we cant test or compare with the past.....
what is interesting is that the bronze mean applies to the fracturing of time and space but one lags behind the other.. (the universe is approaching the 43rd spatial step whilst time may only be approaching the 13th)... this again potentially reveals a means to interpret and understand such things as the Golden Age (hinduism) and the Kingdom (Abrahamic)... A temporal sequence that has only fractured by 13 orders is a universe that hhas used less than 0.00000000000...1% of its life......
what is most positive about this is that we are so very very very close to this dawn..... a matter of months before the process is irriversible and the greatest opportunity of your "life" may well be presented.....
I believe the universe has been racing towards this point for a number of years now (not that this hasn't always been it's goal) but the last few steps are thwart with danger!!! for prior to realisation we develop the means to destroy......
fortunately the LHC, which represents the greatest threat to the universe and your Golden Age! has encountered more problems and is now delayed until Nov this year... still potentially a threat... we are not at our destination yet and this boat can still be sunk! ... but land is in sight.....
and keep doing the vids Takeshi.... exploration is the path to realisation!
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Wed, July 22, 2009 - 1:19 AM]]]]]you say (propose that) "scale is recursive"
umm... what you mean? [[[[[
it's hard to describe. if you imagine looking at a ball, then look at teh atoms within the ball, then look at the subatomic particles, like an electron, then look at the bits that make up hte electron, then look inside those, and keep looking smaller eventually you may see a mass of faint lights and you look closer and it turns out they are galxies, then you look closer and realise they are the actual galaxies that we inhabit.
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Re: ancient diagrams... modern interpretations
Wed, July 22, 2009 - 9:27 AMthere is a book.. it comes from the 70's (and I once had a copy but never got round to reading it!!) called
the recursive universe... circa 1970's
I agree totally and aver that the universe uses ternary logic (this is the meaning of the trinity) and grows according to the sequence 1,1,4,13,43.... the bronze mean...
its very clever mathematics... the universe is potentially the consequence of an attempt to resolve a 'conflict'...
the conflict can be shown mathematically.. but I don't talk the language of mathematicians.. probable a blessing really... but I can draw it...
its beutifully clever... never ending ... always learning... and reflected everywhere... from the dance of three quarks.. to the dance of the universe.... the 3D (xyz) of space .. the past, present and future of time......
the whole can only be understood at the point of three... but there is only one! ... lol
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Re: ancient diagrams... modern interpretations
Wed, July 22, 2009 - 9:33 AMthe book is on amazon
www.amazon.com/Recursive-.../0809252023
gets a good review... but I never read it... (one of thos books that caught my eye in a antiquarian book shop... )
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Wed, July 22, 2009 - 1:43 AMso yeah...
on a media level...
I call it "broken fractals"...
there is the accumulation of info...
then there is the administration of values...
what do you feel is the risk of a functional LHC...?
my own feeling is that without the fractures there can be no consciousness...
no universal big bang - no multiversal hell...
so for me that kinda means that without an apocalypse there is no paradigm shift...
and on the 12th day the lord created the happy meal and primetime peoploids and they went to clan meetings and said it was good etc...
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Wed, July 22, 2009 - 1:53 AMhi orhpeus,
>>what do you feel is the risk of a functional LHC...? <<
the risks are as refered to in the last vid of the lesson of the lights and as refered to in the Aum to Allah vids...
to use a more relative euphamism the LHC is to our universe what sissors are to puppets.... it will cut the (quantum) strings!
are you ready to Dance alone?
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Wed, July 22, 2009 - 2:15 AMwell in my TOE the strings are evil worms so if you cut them they multiply etc...
what exactly do you mean by dance alone...?
every man is created with his quantum strings cut but some have them more cut than others...
a swiss guy told me that there have been a few deformed births around the CERN as with nuclear power plants etc...
but for the most part the world seems to be procreating abundantly and going about it's horrific insider trading business as usual etc... ;)
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Wed, July 22, 2009 - 2:19 AM
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Re: ancient diagrams... modern interpretations
Wed, July 22, 2009 - 6:35 AMto dance alone..... means just that..
you are in a dance now only you are not alone... what joins you with the others is that which CERN hope to understand.. the great cosmic DJ.. aka the Lord of the Dance....
but you can never understand the music ny smashing the records... and that is CERNs approach...
if they are successful in repairing the LHC and use it... the music will stop.. and you will be alone.. in the dark.. without any company but your own imagination... the string will be cut, the DJ silenced..
and you will have to dance alone.........
so I hope you been paying attention.. if you know how the dance works then you will be fine.. you will be able to create and into your creation. your dance you can be... but if you cant dance.. if you do not know the secret of creation.. well its wall flower time... only there is no wall and likely not much of a flower... still it will be dark and there won't be anyone there to notice...
but its a long long time to spend wishing you had learned to correograph your own dance......
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Re: ancient diagrams... modern interpretations
Wed, July 22, 2009 - 6:55 AMso you mean it's going to go from really awful to even worse...?
and why does that not surprise me... hahaha
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Wed, July 22, 2009 - 7:51 AMthis is a remarkably bleak outloook in my opinion...
do you have a positive spin on this?
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Wed, July 22, 2009 - 9:05 AMbleak...oh no... not unless....
that is what you desire......
if the universe completes its objective... then an oportunity opens for us all...
as JC said "in my fathers house, there are many rooms"... one room for each of us.. decorated and furnished according to your desires...
but the room is not yet built... almost but not quite...
a word of caution.. becareful what you wish.... it may come true... I would advise that one looks to the great teachers (Buddha, Jesus, Muhammad) for what one should desire.......
what distinguishes heaven from hell..... is YOUR input......... without you it is neutral..
so bleak... if that is what you want then a room is being prepared.... personally I have a kinda telly tubby room in mind.. chilled out and soft
but if you prefer dungeons.... make one of them...
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Re: ancient diagrams... modern interpretations
Tue, July 21, 2009 - 11:45 PMfantastic! thank you!
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Wed, July 22, 2009 - 9:26 AMI call it not a broken Fractal, but and recurrsive fractal universe...
Look at it this way remembering that matter cannot be created nor destroyed, with that in mind, here's why we exist and why matter cannot be created...
Ready, take an cell in the finger of your hand, it's made up of smaller parts, and these smaller parts are made up of atoms, and these atoms are made up of things like; electrons, protons, quarks etc... and these things are made up of sub-atomic things and if you keep spitting these things down to the tinies arts, then these things still have to be made up of something untill you get so small that you do enter another deminsion of space and time to where it is like another universe with it's own speed of light and galaxies and planets and sand on these planets and atoms making up the sand and sub-atomic material making up this and so on and so forth...
So... If man uses the atom smasher Super collider... We destroy many worlds and many lifes!... One only need look into the night sky to see the possibilities of an electron comming our way to destroy our world from beings in a higher dimension...
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Wed, July 22, 2009 - 9:52 AM>>So... If man uses the atom smasher Super collider... We destroy many worlds and many lifes!... One only need look into the night sky to see the possibilities of an electron comming our way to destroy our world from beings in a higher dimension... <<
this is always a possibility........
one of the concepts I came to understand/formulate... (whatever) is the 'limit of fracture'... this potentially translates as 43 orders of magnitude seperating the largest from the smallest concept... the lagest being the universe (at 10*25m) and the quark (10*-17m)... it is a very very very big number 1 followed by 43 zero's!
and it is the limit of understanding... the bubble of order in the chaos... the most your (and definately my) mind can cope with... in fact you can only cope with it in one form... manifestation.. you can only live it...
belowand above a certain point it is not possible for any part of this universe to exist.. therefore it is impossible to experimentally understand beyond this... it is wise therefore to assume that something as great, if not greater exists outside of this relm.. we can never peer past the mirror..... we can only ponder at what lies beyond and behind....
but two things you can be sure of... you are definately the product of what went before... the whole of history has conspired to create you at this point in time and space...
and your actions, thoughts, etc will conspire to create what comes next... but no sneaky preview..
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Wed, July 22, 2009 - 12:03 PMwell I'm currently stuck in a dungeon...
which then begs the question...
if the infinite complexity bothered to make this world then how come I got stuck in a dungeon instead of in an air conditioned penthouse in metropolis...
with the pleasant company of some tantric babes pandering to my wellbeing etc...
like what is out there doing the downer stuff on my sad ass...?
and maybe the cadran thing is exactly what is needed to correct this problem...!!!
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Wed, July 22, 2009 - 5:36 PMpp:"one of the concepts I came to understand/formulate... (whatever) is the 'limit of fracture'... this potentially translates as 43 orders of magnitude seperating the largest from the smallest concept... the lagest being the universe (at 10*25m) and the quark (10*-17m)... it is a very very very big number 1 followed by 43 zero's!"
I always wondered what the limits were to mans understandings to date... Where do these numbers come from? Just curious because I could use these numbers in theory...
It's sort of like man "dating" the universe...(grin)...
The horizon problem...
OUR universe appears to be unfathomably uniform. Look across space from one edge of the visible universe to the other, and you'll see that the microwave background radiation filling the cosmos is at the same temperature everywhere. That may not seem surprising until you consider that the two edges are nearly 28 billion light years apart and our universe is only 14 billion years old.
You see, Man can see in one direction for 14 billion light years, so he dates the universe as being 14 billion years old yet he can look in the other direction for the same distance, so across our universe is a total of 28 billion light years, At least! This doesn't say that the universe is 14 OR 28 billion years old, all it says is, that our sight is limited to the 14 billion light years in any direction (it's a limit in the way we can percieve light)... Our galaxy is traveling in one direction and as soon as we travel one light year we can still see that 14 billion light years so I suggest that even if we went to the edge of the universe(14 billion light years away) we could still see 14 billion light years in any direction!...
Summation: Man is wrong in his dating of the universe! Plain and simple... In a fractal universe this account for infinity that continues on in a fractal wave. Thus matter always existed and will never be destroyed which leads to the conclusion of the infinitely small and the infinitely large dimentions that continue on into infinity through this fractal realm... We are but atoms that have existed for a very long time that are very, very old and they have come together now as us, new, very young living beings and conscious of ourself, we are the universe becomming conscious of itself.
As with your measurement, I want to calculate what the possible harmonics of the speed of light would be in a smaller/or larger universe and come up with an experiment to change the thoughts of mans percieved ideas of the big bang theory(challenge this theory)... If there is a mathmatical calculation to the theory, it'll be the next big thing in physics.
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Wed, July 22, 2009 - 7:14 PMIn otherwords, if I can prove a harmonics of light speed to be 10*-17m going into a black hole, then what the light is doing is transposing into a smaller dimension, thus, the light doesn't escape the black hole but is instead reduced through harmonics into a faster speed of light into a smaller dimension and throught this exchange the Hawkins radiation that is emitted from a black hole is the equal and opposite reaction of feeding our universe matter of an equal and opposite reaction, thus the law of motion is preserved.
See, things will make more sense in mathmatical terms if I can prove this scientifically through a mathmatical formula...
If there were a hundred billion tiny universes in one atom that was in one grain of sand then this would more than make up the differece of the missing "Dark Matter"... It's not missing, it's just so small you can't realize its existance in the dimention it's in. -
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Thu, July 23, 2009 - 1:17 AMhi Vedaveron,
... it is a very very very big number 1 followed by 43 zero's!"
>>I always wondered what the limits were to mans understandings to date... Where do these numbers come from? Just curious because I could use these numbers in theory... <<
The answer to this is interesting… the numbers come from that which some call ‘revelation’ …I see it differently but anyway five years ago I was working on an environmental model…and I fell into a rabbit hole.. it took me on a journey to Pakistan Kashmir… you can read the story if you chose here … www.scribd.com/doc/137828...ov-Revision
What is important to note is the numbers were ‘revealed’.. at the time of the awakening and whilst I was aware of the first three in the bronze mean sequence (1 4 13).. the 43 was revealed and the discovery of the numbers as an integer sequence was accidental ..an event that occurred a year later… similarly I only leaned that this sequence is called the bronze mean earlier this year… in many respects a complete ignorance of mathematics and spirituality was to my benefit.. I was open, unbiased. Like putty to the Lights!
One thing to point out is whilst the sequence extends in theory beyond 43… in practice it doesn’t.. it is all down to the generation of 3 hyper spatial dimensions in this step.. in the previous steps a single dimension is generated (+1) but at 43… 4 are created… this is what is special…this is the loop…. More on this at malcolm.mcewen.googlepages.com/th...ion
One thing to note… this stuff is now 3 years plus old… I have learned/deduced/assumed a lot since then and still trying to unravel it yet! If you bore yaself wid all that I write and animate… bear in mind the dates.. they are very relevant and part of the story.. I share as I see… but it is veiled.. it is unpleasant to look…(one of the reasons why most of the work has been put together in India.. where I am allowed to dive into the hole.....
>>It's sort of like man "dating" the universe...(grin)...
The horizon problem...
OUR universe appears to be unfathomably uniform. Look across space from one edge of the visible universe to the other, and you'll see that the microwave background radiation filling the cosmos is at the same temperature everywhere. That may not seem surprising until you consider that the two edges are nearly 28 billion light years apart and our universe is only 14 billion years old. <<
But explainable by fracturing… go back to the beginning and the universe is a uniform unit of one… it fractures into two.. then four, eight etc….. each fracture is now a unit in its own right but inherits a property from the original state… similarly be careful about what you read as astronomical/physical fact… it is all theory.. no one not even Armstrong and crew has ever left the gravitational influence of the Earth.. maths includes a branch called Statistics and as one of the USA’s founding fathers noted.. there are lies, damn lies and statistics… numbers, particularly the linear kind we use do lie… especially at the extremes… theory and practice are quite different.
>>You see, Man can see in one direction for 14 billion light years, so he dates the universe as being 14 billion years old yet he can look in the other direction for the same distance, so across our universe is a total of 28 billion light years, At least! This doesn't say that the universe is 14 OR 28 billion years old, all it says is, that our sight is limited to the 14 billion light years in any direction (it's a limit in the way we can percieve light)... Our galaxy is traveling in one direction and as soon as we travel one light year we can still see that 14 billion light years so I suggest that even if we went to the edge of the universe(14 billion light years away) we could still see 14 billion light years in any direction!... <<
Yes! Because there is only one ‘real time’ and it is the one you personally experience.. as it is the one I personally experience… we are on a ‘flat sphere’ it has no edge only horizons but it is centred on you as it is centred on me..
Summation: Man is wrong in his dating of the universe! Plain and simple... In a fractal universe this account for infinity that continues on in a fractal wave. Thus matter always existed and will never be destroyed which leads to the conclusion of the infinitely small and the infinitely large dimentions that continue on into infinity through this fractal realm... We are but atoms that have existed for a very long time that are very, very old and they have come together now as us, new, very young living beings and conscious of ourself, we are the universe becomming conscious of itself.
Yes and no…. I agree that our dating of the universe is wrong because of our continuing belief that it is linear and uniform despite the scientific experiments with atomic clocks and airplanes that show otherwise…
No because it is not infinite… at the smallest scale the universe makes a particular pattern/shape…. It similarly makes a pattern at the largest… in both cases the pattern is identical… this is the loop.. thus it is not infinite but recursive… we can only explore between the two points… this is finite… but from the quark to the universe its as near an infinite finite as you could wish for…
>>As with your measurement, I want to calculate what the possible harmonics of the speed of light would be in a smaller/or larger universe and come up with an experiment to change the thoughts of mans percieved ideas of the big bang theory(challenge this theory)... If there is a mathmatical calculation to the theory, it'll be the next big thing in physics. <<
Agreed… find it !! … in this respect I would recommend seeking out a book by Brigdeman “(1927) who argued against establishing rules of reasoning regarding the observations that were being made in the new field of Quantum mechanics. In his book,” the logic of modern physics” Bridgeman concluded that "it is possible to analyze nature into correlations without. . . any assumption whatever as to the character of those correlations," and he argues that to go beyond empirical correlation into the realm of hypotheses of reasons for them is to "prejudice the future".
This is very much the case with modern physics… all researchers, students etc without exception are victims of this (and many other) prejudice… just a point but I discovered this reference when researching problems in soil classification… it should be noted I am not a physicist .. I’m a soil scientist by training and it is the multi-disciplinary aspect of soil science that led me on this road….
>>A harmonics of light speed would also answer many a question and also allow for the possibility of "faster" than light travel! It would answer the question of "where the light goes in a black hole"...
In otherwords, if I can prove a harmonics of light speed to be 10*-17m going into a black hole, then what the light is doing is transposing into a smaller dimension, thus, the light doesn't escape the black hole but is instead reduced through harmonics into a faster speed of light into a smaller dimension and throught this exchange the Hawkins radiation that is emitted from a black hole is the equal and opposite reaction of feeding our universe matter of an equal and opposite reaction, thus the law of motion is preserved.
See, things will make more sense in mathmatical terms if I can prove this scientifically through a mathmatical formula... <<
Agreed in terms of getting wider acceptance however not necessary to exploit it.. it is rather like moving your arm.. you don’t know the precise mechanisms and the mathematics associated with the action but this lack of knowledge doesn’t prevent you from picking your nose .. likewise not being able to express the universe or part of it in terms of mathematics doesn’t prevent you from entering Paradise…. God is not an elitist who populates heaven with Nobel prize winners… He/She/It just wants you balanced… hence the trinity (Devotion, Compassion, Pacifism.. see my google pages for a full transcript of the three pillars.. the first ‘revelation’ (I so wish there was another less pompous term to describe this event)
If there were a hundred billion tiny universes in one atom that was in one grain of sand then this would more than make up the differece of the missing "Dark Matter"... It's not missing, it's just so small you can't realize its existance in the dimention it's in.
No I think dark matter is far easier to explain… it is detailed (well elaborated..) in the web pages and in the lesson of the lights video.. Dark matter represents approx 7/8 of the universes matter…. This can be explained through quantum spin… give it direction and three quarks can make 8 kinds of matter (2 x 2 x2) .. but only matter with quarks of the same spin interact… if you live in a universe with dual spin you can work this out but two combinations (manifestations) only have spin in one direction… we likely live in one of these two universes.. we do not experience opposite spin.. we will never identify it experimentally but it is there…..
Finally… sorry about the length of this post… hope it clarifies.. gives food for thought……
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Thu, July 23, 2009 - 1:29 AMPs forgot to put the following link in ...
you may find this useful and the owner (Dale Pond) is communicative
Sympathetic Vibratory Physics -It's a Musical Universe!
www.svpvril.com/
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GM23
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Thu, July 23, 2009 - 1:55 AMwell the ongoing problem is...
there is a lot of mystical inspiration around...
"worm" often reveals that nature bites and people are assholes...
so it may or may not be valid but certainly raises issues regarding the source etc...
pot (for me) kinda revealed a matrix of light that I kinda wanted to connect up but could never really do it...
the shrooms revealed that everything manifest is evil and made of worms...
so if you can't fold a piece of paper more than 43zillion times...
then it would seem to me that is just one of 43zillion constraints applicable to the manifestation within this "Gangster Computer worm Worldwide Secret Containment Policy" ...
www.youtube.com/watch
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Thu, July 23, 2009 - 8:42 AMNo problem on length, I just want to thank you for your in depth answer... I'll check out some of you links... -
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Fri, July 31, 2009 - 11:47 AMa little more on limiations...
I thought I'dd share the following with you.......
I recently re- run a couple of searches.... in particular the number 7,625,597,484,987
its a big number and one I originally calculated in 2006. It related to the total number of potential exchanges/interactions that occur in one step in a system containing 43 elements (malcolm.mcewen.googlepages.com/th...... it wasnt possible for me to calculate it further but the number was big enough to google it.... at that time the searched yeided two results only one result of use.....
repeated today it yeilds 1490 results......... why? what is the significance of this number?
(appart from equallying the national debt)
I have a suspician that it is the number of interactions that occur in a 'moment'
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Fri, July 31, 2009 - 12:57 PMI translated your number onto a 2d coordinate system and came up with the following symbol
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Fri, July 31, 2009 - 2:15 PMthe number is represented on the screen by a sequence of separate numbers.
do you think that my separating the numbers and using them as coordinates is inappropriate?
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Fri, July 31, 2009 - 2:50 PMthe number itself is part of a sequence
the equation for which is 3^(3^n)
so unlikely to yeild anything meaninful...
but the bronze mean (0, 1, 4.13.43) 0r 1 1 4 13 43 and if you want to repeat it just 4,13,43.. might yeild something interesting
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Fri, July 31, 2009 - 3:56 PMOrph, this Makes me wan to go to Bermuda for some reason ; )
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Fri, July 31, 2009 - 4:10 PMi guess a number is 1 dimensional actually...
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Fri, July 31, 2009 - 4:55 PMactually, I played around with some other number sequences and they all came out a bit rubish.
pretty much everything i tried came out looking like an uncoordinated mess.
I'm gonna say that I actually think this symbol is pretty significant.
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Fri, July 31, 2009 - 5:08 PMwhat do you feel it is significant of...? -
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Re: ancient diagrams... modern interpretations
Fri, July 31, 2009 - 5:47 PMI'm not entirely sure, it is just that the shape seems like it is on purpose.
it seems like it represents something.
it doesn't look accidental to me.
i thought about it though in terms of where the number came from.
the mathematics of evolution is it?
so I think this symbol seems to perhaps represent something to do with evolution?
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Fri, July 31, 2009 - 2:51 PMjust wondering what process you used... -
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Fri, July 31, 2009 - 4:00 PMok cool,
apologies for my energy at the moment, I'm having a bit of conflict over the past week or so
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Re: ancient diagrams... modern interpretations
Wed, July 22, 2009 - 11:54 AMwell the smaller parts of the fractal are worms and the bigger thing is worms too...
of course...
so I don't see how the collider can come up with anything other than worms...
of course it might make angry worms...
which would be kinda scarey...
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Re: ancient diagrams... modern interpretations
Wed, July 22, 2009 - 12:55 PMwell if you cut the worm in half...
you get two....
cut it in half again and you get four..
half again and ts eight, sixteen, 32...64... then you cut just one time too many and you aint got worms anymore.. you got worm steaks
you have changed the reality... you can not turn your steaks back into worms......... you are the poorer as a consequence
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Wed, July 22, 2009 - 12:59 PMbut steaks are made of worms... -
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Wed, July 22, 2009 - 1:01 PM
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Re: ancient diagrams... modern interpretations
Wed, July 22, 2009 - 1:32 PMsadly there is a limit orpheus...
a point at which you no longer have worms... you may not have found it but go down deep enough or up high enough and you will find a limit...
as I said in the earlier post the distance between these two points is vast... 43 orders of magnitude... but whilst from a given perspective it appears infinite in practice it is not.... the limit has two boundaries..... the first is determined by you... it is your cognitive limitation.. as it is similarly mine.... the other is it's actual limitation..... but it is the first that one encounters and cannot pass....
just because you can add 1 to a number infinitely, at least in theory... does not mean you cannot do it in practice.. even if you begun counting at the start of the big bang and passed the task onto another prior to death your descendent would still not have reached very far.... you can estimate how far ....
assume it takes 6 secs to write a number.. ten in a min.. 600/hr... 14400 a day.... 5256000 a year x 13 billion (approx age of universe) and you or your current heir has reached 5256,000,000,000,000,000 or 5.256 x 10(17)... far short of infinity.....
this is one of the problems of our numbers systems... they extend into absurdity... and trying to understand the universe beyond the points numbers really exist throws up paradoxes... hence the quest for the god particle... the theorisation of something that cannot exist in our reality... the limit of fracture beyond which all that holds true in this universe falls apart....
it is something one has to realize...
either you can or you haven't thought about it long enough..
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Re: ancient diagrams... modern interpretations
Wed, July 22, 2009 - 1:35 PMsorry ...
this should have read
ust because you can add 1 to a number infinitely, at least in theory... does not mean you CAN do it in practice.. even if you begun counting at the start of the big bang and passed the task onto another prior to death your descendent would still not have reached very far.... you can estimate how far .... -
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Re: ancient diagrams... modern interpretations
Wed, July 22, 2009 - 2:19 PMobviously that is the problem with numbers...
but that isn't the same for worms...
as for working out how many worms there are...
well there is one worm composed of an infinite micro/macro fractal of worms etc...
I mean if you want to count the maggots in a bait box you can go for it I guess and you can maybe do it one day...
but what's the point...?
they are either there or not for the purpose of whatever the situation requires...
the manifest is made of worms...
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Re: ancient diagrams... modern interpretations
Wed, July 22, 2009 - 2:26 PM>>the manifest is made of worms...
the unmanifest is made of the absence of worms...<<
YES! and herein lies the paradox of studying the unmanifest with worms.... it is not the unmanifest anymore! you have introduced worms!!
hence the limit of a being composed of worms... it cannot explore that which is not made of worms... the limt of understanding.. the gate to chaos... beyond the worm!
anyone know how to wriggle outa here?
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Re: ancient diagrams... modern interpretations
Wed, July 22, 2009 - 2:58 PMwormholes...?
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Sun, October 4, 2009 - 9:01 PM"A fractal universe is the only theory that fits all the data of todays science! The big bang just doesn't fit..."
Yeeeeess! I've always had a problem with the "feel" of the Big Bang theory. (I'm no scientist)
especially since some of my more recent "travels". *wink*
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