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Structured Water: the 10 pointed star in Sacred Geometry
By Phoenix Rising Star
A woman came into our center. She'd been there before, so we were familiar with her. However, this time when she entered we immediately noticed some changes in her.
Close to seventy, she previously had a somewhat dried appearance, like an autumn leaf before disintegrating. Papery-thin, dry.
Today she had a vitality about her. An excitement and energy. Her skin appeared more nourished. Her wrinkles were no longer prominent. Her hair was silky and curly, even better than with a fresh perm.
"I have something I want you to try," she announced.
Uncovering what appeared to be a glass of water, she asked me if we had smaller cups for tasting the liquid. After we produced some, she poured the water into each cup and encouraged us to drink it.
Curious, we first looked at the remarkably clear fluid. Sniffing, we noticed a lack of odor. No chemicals, like chlorine. No natural sulfur smell. Nothing.
So we tasted it.
It seemed to flow through my mouth and down my gullet like slow cool molasses, spreading an incredible soothing lightness through my mouth and down.
Was this JUST water?
We began to eagerly gulp it until each glass was empty.
She smiled at us and began to tell us about this water.
"It's called structured water. It goes through a cylinder like a filter, but it's not. Any water can go through this cylinder. And what happens is all the toxic chemicals get transmuted, leaving only the original pure state of water," she said.
"I don't know how it works, but the inventor is in town, selling them out of his car. I'd like to get him here to talk about it," she suggested.
So would we.
Curious, we asked him in for a private interview and a public presentation on this 'cylinder' that structured water.
Before he arrived for either one, I got on the internet to see what I could find out about Clayton Nolte or structured water. There wasn't much.
I was, however, able to order a shower unit. I wanted to see for myself what this thing did before I was influenced by Clayton or anyone else.
Easy to install, the shower unit is bi-directional, meaning you can't make a mistake in installing it. It works in either direction and is just as effective either way.
Unscrew the shower head from the pipe. Add the shower unit to the pipe. Add the shower head to the unit. If it hangs too low to shower comfortably, add a riser pipe first.
The first time I showered in it, I felt my body immediately relax into the pure, clean state of what felt like living water. No chlorine smell. Just silky moving water. Like standing under a gentle waterfall. Or even a home-made outdoor shower using collected rainfall. Soft and pure.
"Thank you!" I heard and felt my body say.
Soap didn't seem to foam as much, but neither did I feel I needed it.
My skin and hair felt hydrated, smooth and silky afterwards. Even in this dry Arizona air.
During the day and subsequent days I noticed that any daily intentions I recited in the shower manifested faster and more profoundly.
From, "I am a living field of love and light" to "I choose to release anything not for my highest good and healing and fill myself with love and light" to "I choose to release any stored toxins from my bodies, with grace and ease, and imprint whatever higher frequencies will prevent me from taking on any more."
And so on.
Incredible how the days flowed effortlessly, in harmony. How happy my body was. How happy all my bodies were.
My cat refused to drink anything but structured water. So did we, as a matter of fact. Even if it came from the tap initially. We NEVER drink from the tap. We've always gotten our water from the live spring twelve miles away. But just running water through the garden unit or the shower unit creates a better tasting glass of water, more hydrating, and energizing than anything I've ever tasted.
We left town for a week. I watered plants with structured water before we left. When we came back, the jasmine plants had doubled in size and had more blossoms than ever before. The almost dead aloe plant had a new lease on life, with seven new leaves. All in one week!
We went to a local restaurant. New owners had spruced it up quite a bit, and the food tasted much better. Then we noticed a sign on the table advertising structured water for their drinking water. As we looked around, we noticed how joyful the atmosphere was. People at different tables, talking to each other, apparently meeting for the first time. Diners going back for seconds and thirds from the delicious buffet.
What was going on here?
When Clayton Nolte came in for his interview, the first thing he said was, "Everybody has what I have. Everybody. But they haven't taken the time to practice, to observe, to be present. That's what it's all about."
Raised on a farm in Minnesota, he went to college for two years, studying engineering. At that time, he wasn't sure which area of engineering to go into, so the University gave him a battery of tests and determined the Air Force was a good choice.
Entering the Air Force, he received the same battery of tests, and then talked to some men in black suits who profiled him into research and development in electronic warfare.
"I received a broad range of education, and a lab with an unlimited supply of toys and tools, and it ended up to be quite an experience," Clay said. He added that he's taken a leave of absence in the last ten years.
I asked, "So what began your journey with water?"
"It's simple. Water appeared where it should not."
After a moment of silence, I asked the logical question, "Where was that?"
"In time, the observation of structured water was there in this world of pollution."
He continued, "My journey was in studying nature and the things that man can do, but are not practiced."
So how does this work exactly?
"The fluid units themselves are pretty basic. There are no moving parts, no chemicals, no filters, no magnets, no electricity needed to run this. The inside is glass and Sacred Geometry. Sacred Geometry has to do with everything. It IS everything. Basically this unit helps water to go back to its perfect structure that it has in nature. Structured water has a life force energy. Anything good for life is carried on the outside of the water molecule and easily assimilated. Anything not good for life is pulled to the inside of the molecule and shielded. So life becomes the filter, passing through and going back into nature. Structured water has a balanced spin of counter-rotating fields. The more balanced the spin, the more equal, the more pure the structure. Living water in its natural state has the same counter-rotating fields. All I've done is create a balanced field so water can remember its natural state."
I just looked at him.
"You all want an explanation! You want to intellectualize it. You want a mathematical formula for it all. But in nature, the true balance is the key. We need to let go of HOW," he said.
"Water in its perfect structure takes on a God form. It's magic. When water is in the process of structuring, it doesn't see anything else. It's just enamored with the possibility of being free.
"Structured water can't survive in man's world. Everything man-made is injurious to life. No matter the amount of structured water, or what type of pipe is used, structured water will not live beyond 300 feet in straight pipe. So if you have a whole house unit, you need to know the location of your pipes and their relationship to each other in order to know if you need one or two units. For example, there was a man who ordered a house unit. His plants in the front seemed to thrive, but he still noticed hard water spots on his dishes from the dishwasher. When we investigated, we found that he'd put the whole house unit by the water main, as instructed, but he had two hundred feet of driveway! The three hundred feet rule seems to be very consistent. It's just the way it is. Once he installed a second unit closer to his kitchen, he was very satisfied with the results.
"In nature, there's always a however. In ten miles of pipe with structured water in the pipe, if you have a shut off at one end, all ten miles of water will be structured within minutes. Water entrains within minutes, both forward and backward within the pipe.
"Structured water is highly stable. It frees excess oxygen. It supports aerobic bacteria and kills anaerobic bacteria. Consuming structured water instantly hydrates the cells. In the QXCI machine, you would instantly see the results in twenty-two seconds, from the time you think you're going to pick up the glass and drink from it. What happens when you drink tap water, your body expends around one hundred KW of energy to be hydrated. With structured water, your hydration is instantaneous and your energy can do what it's meant to do. It resets your DNA and RNA back to before circumstances and pollution.
"Once a plant is given structured water, it receives far more nutrition from the air. Once it contains its predisposition of source and vitality, then regardless of pollution, it can receive its life force from the air.
"Placing structured water, a container of structured water in the environment will pull out negativity and toxins from the environment. It will structure a glass of non-structured water just sitting close by."
I said, "I noticed I was releasing more cellular memory…."
He nodded, "I recommend asking the universe to erase all demands, prayers or anything you haven't received yet. Just erase it. Because eventually, when you get to that 'free space', the first thing you ask for could manifest instantly. Because you're no longer being weighted down by the universe trying to provide something you had to have when you were thirteen years old. And believe me, everyone who's practiced letting go of things without knowing what they are, those people are very empowered.
"Structured water gives people greater potential or opportunities to know what's theirs-to be given dominion-to no longer be susceptible to anything taking you off your center."
I asked about Masaro Emoto's work with water crystals. "Did you also find the perfect hexagon shape?"
"Yeah, sure," he answered.
"Intention works also. With what you saw, was it comparable to Emoto's work, as in love and gratitude creating beautiful crystal shapes?"
"Comparable yes. But you know the word hexadecimal or hexagonal implies something that's only temporary. You want your water to look like this? Be like this. You can make everything that way. Why should I make it for you? Be that way. There are people in this world who can instantly manifest anything they desire. Even you can do that. So…you have no excuses."
I said, "It isn't about that, it's about empowering the individual. What you're doing with this device is helping individuals to empower themselves so they can do more."
"Right."
He continued with sacred geometry. "Everybody thinks water is a hexagon shape, but it's not. The actual figure, in my experience, is a ten pointed star. Two intersecting pyramids. The actual figure points on a pyramid are four on the bottom and one at the top. Drop it in point to point and you get a ten pointed star. From that ten points, it can morph into anything. In electronic form, the ten pointed star is a device of changing dimensions, for inter-planetary travel. It's just energy powered by intention. That's just the way it is."
"I see Hydrogen as the aspect of the Father. Everything turns on Hydrogen. It's the first part in all elements, in all things. Oxygen is the Mother. And Carbon is the child," he said in a remarkable connection to the Unity Breath Meditation. "Everything is a combination of these three. Everything."
What are some of the miracle stories you've heard with structured water?
"There was a 75 year old man with life-long excema who bought a shower unit. Within 18 hours, 90% of his itching, burning skin irritations had disappeared. Another man had esophageal cancer. He was hospitalized with severe dehydration, and given no chance of survival. His friend began bringing him structured water every day. He walked out of the hospital in under four weeks, in remission. Another person with cancer began drinking the water, and within three weeks, was in remission. The list goes on and on. I hear miracle stories all the time."
What is the longest range of effects you've studied with the structured water units?
"Well, I've been making these units for more than fifteen years, and people that first bought them from me are still happy with them. Nothing has been replaced, or needed fixing. There's no moving parts and no filters to replace, and the lifetime guarantee seems to be working."
What are the other benefits of structured water?
"It tastes better because it structures any chemicals natural or man-made, anything that is toxic, and just surrounds it and releases it. It just passes through your body without effect. So the first immediate effect is your body heals from the polluting chemicals you've been used to. Increased vitality. Less joint and muscle pain. More energy because there's more oxygen. Increased absorption of vitamins, minerals and medications. Vigorous plant growth. Less fertilizer required. It removes existing calcium and aragonite deposits. No hard water spots. Less cleaning required for kitchen and bathroom. Prevents and removes corrosion and increases the life span of pipes, hot water heaters, dishwashers, swamp-coolers, water heating systems, ice makers, etc. The list goes on and on. Less algae growth in ponds and lakes, cleaner fish tanks, healthier pets, improved crops and garden growth, better tasting food. I could go on and on."
Are there any negative effects from the units?
"Well, once you start using this on your garden, be prepared to always use it. Birds and other wildlife will demand it. Plants will demand it. And if you live in an area like Arizona where javelinas run wild, you'll have to protect your garden device from them. They'll find a way to destroy the garden unit. It's like they have to have whatever life force energy is coming from there. And the units will break down in prolonged sunlight. The outside is PVC pipe, so find a way to shelter it. If you're in a cold zone, don't leave water in it when it starts to freeze. Take it inside. Also, at this time, we don't have the units fitted for metric pipes, like Europe. But we're working on that."
So what's next?
"In my research, I want to get to that place where no one has been. Where there are no words. There's nothing you can't do if you have enough money and you have people that aren't limited.
"Take what you know and be in joy. That will catapult us into what we can do to make a difference. We have to be ready for that. In my journey, the greatest propulsion is taking action. There are organizations all over the world where there are think tanks. But the truth is in action."
For a YouTube Video on Clayton Nolte and structured water, go to: www.youtube.com/watch
To order your structured water unit, email: claytonnolte@gmail.com
For fun with 10 pointed stars, water channeling, information from the Spirit of Water and ways of energizing water, go to: www.SpiritOfWater.org
In love, joy and gratitude,
Phoenix Rising Star
By Phoenix Rising Star
A woman came into our center. She'd been there before, so we were familiar with her. However, this time when she entered we immediately noticed some changes in her.
Close to seventy, she previously had a somewhat dried appearance, like an autumn leaf before disintegrating. Papery-thin, dry.
Today she had a vitality about her. An excitement and energy. Her skin appeared more nourished. Her wrinkles were no longer prominent. Her hair was silky and curly, even better than with a fresh perm.
"I have something I want you to try," she announced.
Uncovering what appeared to be a glass of water, she asked me if we had smaller cups for tasting the liquid. After we produced some, she poured the water into each cup and encouraged us to drink it.
Curious, we first looked at the remarkably clear fluid. Sniffing, we noticed a lack of odor. No chemicals, like chlorine. No natural sulfur smell. Nothing.
So we tasted it.
It seemed to flow through my mouth and down my gullet like slow cool molasses, spreading an incredible soothing lightness through my mouth and down.
Was this JUST water?
We began to eagerly gulp it until each glass was empty.
She smiled at us and began to tell us about this water.
"It's called structured water. It goes through a cylinder like a filter, but it's not. Any water can go through this cylinder. And what happens is all the toxic chemicals get transmuted, leaving only the original pure state of water," she said.
"I don't know how it works, but the inventor is in town, selling them out of his car. I'd like to get him here to talk about it," she suggested.
So would we.
Curious, we asked him in for a private interview and a public presentation on this 'cylinder' that structured water.
Before he arrived for either one, I got on the internet to see what I could find out about Clayton Nolte or structured water. There wasn't much.
I was, however, able to order a shower unit. I wanted to see for myself what this thing did before I was influenced by Clayton or anyone else.
Easy to install, the shower unit is bi-directional, meaning you can't make a mistake in installing it. It works in either direction and is just as effective either way.
Unscrew the shower head from the pipe. Add the shower unit to the pipe. Add the shower head to the unit. If it hangs too low to shower comfortably, add a riser pipe first.
The first time I showered in it, I felt my body immediately relax into the pure, clean state of what felt like living water. No chlorine smell. Just silky moving water. Like standing under a gentle waterfall. Or even a home-made outdoor shower using collected rainfall. Soft and pure.
"Thank you!" I heard and felt my body say.
Soap didn't seem to foam as much, but neither did I feel I needed it.
My skin and hair felt hydrated, smooth and silky afterwards. Even in this dry Arizona air.
During the day and subsequent days I noticed that any daily intentions I recited in the shower manifested faster and more profoundly.
From, "I am a living field of love and light" to "I choose to release anything not for my highest good and healing and fill myself with love and light" to "I choose to release any stored toxins from my bodies, with grace and ease, and imprint whatever higher frequencies will prevent me from taking on any more."
And so on.
Incredible how the days flowed effortlessly, in harmony. How happy my body was. How happy all my bodies were.
My cat refused to drink anything but structured water. So did we, as a matter of fact. Even if it came from the tap initially. We NEVER drink from the tap. We've always gotten our water from the live spring twelve miles away. But just running water through the garden unit or the shower unit creates a better tasting glass of water, more hydrating, and energizing than anything I've ever tasted.
We left town for a week. I watered plants with structured water before we left. When we came back, the jasmine plants had doubled in size and had more blossoms than ever before. The almost dead aloe plant had a new lease on life, with seven new leaves. All in one week!
We went to a local restaurant. New owners had spruced it up quite a bit, and the food tasted much better. Then we noticed a sign on the table advertising structured water for their drinking water. As we looked around, we noticed how joyful the atmosphere was. People at different tables, talking to each other, apparently meeting for the first time. Diners going back for seconds and thirds from the delicious buffet.
What was going on here?
When Clayton Nolte came in for his interview, the first thing he said was, "Everybody has what I have. Everybody. But they haven't taken the time to practice, to observe, to be present. That's what it's all about."
Raised on a farm in Minnesota, he went to college for two years, studying engineering. At that time, he wasn't sure which area of engineering to go into, so the University gave him a battery of tests and determined the Air Force was a good choice.
Entering the Air Force, he received the same battery of tests, and then talked to some men in black suits who profiled him into research and development in electronic warfare.
"I received a broad range of education, and a lab with an unlimited supply of toys and tools, and it ended up to be quite an experience," Clay said. He added that he's taken a leave of absence in the last ten years.
I asked, "So what began your journey with water?"
"It's simple. Water appeared where it should not."
After a moment of silence, I asked the logical question, "Where was that?"
"In time, the observation of structured water was there in this world of pollution."
He continued, "My journey was in studying nature and the things that man can do, but are not practiced."
So how does this work exactly?
"The fluid units themselves are pretty basic. There are no moving parts, no chemicals, no filters, no magnets, no electricity needed to run this. The inside is glass and Sacred Geometry. Sacred Geometry has to do with everything. It IS everything. Basically this unit helps water to go back to its perfect structure that it has in nature. Structured water has a life force energy. Anything good for life is carried on the outside of the water molecule and easily assimilated. Anything not good for life is pulled to the inside of the molecule and shielded. So life becomes the filter, passing through and going back into nature. Structured water has a balanced spin of counter-rotating fields. The more balanced the spin, the more equal, the more pure the structure. Living water in its natural state has the same counter-rotating fields. All I've done is create a balanced field so water can remember its natural state."
I just looked at him.
"You all want an explanation! You want to intellectualize it. You want a mathematical formula for it all. But in nature, the true balance is the key. We need to let go of HOW," he said.
"Water in its perfect structure takes on a God form. It's magic. When water is in the process of structuring, it doesn't see anything else. It's just enamored with the possibility of being free.
"Structured water can't survive in man's world. Everything man-made is injurious to life. No matter the amount of structured water, or what type of pipe is used, structured water will not live beyond 300 feet in straight pipe. So if you have a whole house unit, you need to know the location of your pipes and their relationship to each other in order to know if you need one or two units. For example, there was a man who ordered a house unit. His plants in the front seemed to thrive, but he still noticed hard water spots on his dishes from the dishwasher. When we investigated, we found that he'd put the whole house unit by the water main, as instructed, but he had two hundred feet of driveway! The three hundred feet rule seems to be very consistent. It's just the way it is. Once he installed a second unit closer to his kitchen, he was very satisfied with the results.
"In nature, there's always a however. In ten miles of pipe with structured water in the pipe, if you have a shut off at one end, all ten miles of water will be structured within minutes. Water entrains within minutes, both forward and backward within the pipe.
"Structured water is highly stable. It frees excess oxygen. It supports aerobic bacteria and kills anaerobic bacteria. Consuming structured water instantly hydrates the cells. In the QXCI machine, you would instantly see the results in twenty-two seconds, from the time you think you're going to pick up the glass and drink from it. What happens when you drink tap water, your body expends around one hundred KW of energy to be hydrated. With structured water, your hydration is instantaneous and your energy can do what it's meant to do. It resets your DNA and RNA back to before circumstances and pollution.
"Once a plant is given structured water, it receives far more nutrition from the air. Once it contains its predisposition of source and vitality, then regardless of pollution, it can receive its life force from the air.
"Placing structured water, a container of structured water in the environment will pull out negativity and toxins from the environment. It will structure a glass of non-structured water just sitting close by."
I said, "I noticed I was releasing more cellular memory…."
He nodded, "I recommend asking the universe to erase all demands, prayers or anything you haven't received yet. Just erase it. Because eventually, when you get to that 'free space', the first thing you ask for could manifest instantly. Because you're no longer being weighted down by the universe trying to provide something you had to have when you were thirteen years old. And believe me, everyone who's practiced letting go of things without knowing what they are, those people are very empowered.
"Structured water gives people greater potential or opportunities to know what's theirs-to be given dominion-to no longer be susceptible to anything taking you off your center."
I asked about Masaro Emoto's work with water crystals. "Did you also find the perfect hexagon shape?"
"Yeah, sure," he answered.
"Intention works also. With what you saw, was it comparable to Emoto's work, as in love and gratitude creating beautiful crystal shapes?"
"Comparable yes. But you know the word hexadecimal or hexagonal implies something that's only temporary. You want your water to look like this? Be like this. You can make everything that way. Why should I make it for you? Be that way. There are people in this world who can instantly manifest anything they desire. Even you can do that. So…you have no excuses."
I said, "It isn't about that, it's about empowering the individual. What you're doing with this device is helping individuals to empower themselves so they can do more."
"Right."
He continued with sacred geometry. "Everybody thinks water is a hexagon shape, but it's not. The actual figure, in my experience, is a ten pointed star. Two intersecting pyramids. The actual figure points on a pyramid are four on the bottom and one at the top. Drop it in point to point and you get a ten pointed star. From that ten points, it can morph into anything. In electronic form, the ten pointed star is a device of changing dimensions, for inter-planetary travel. It's just energy powered by intention. That's just the way it is."
"I see Hydrogen as the aspect of the Father. Everything turns on Hydrogen. It's the first part in all elements, in all things. Oxygen is the Mother. And Carbon is the child," he said in a remarkable connection to the Unity Breath Meditation. "Everything is a combination of these three. Everything."
What are some of the miracle stories you've heard with structured water?
"There was a 75 year old man with life-long excema who bought a shower unit. Within 18 hours, 90% of his itching, burning skin irritations had disappeared. Another man had esophageal cancer. He was hospitalized with severe dehydration, and given no chance of survival. His friend began bringing him structured water every day. He walked out of the hospital in under four weeks, in remission. Another person with cancer began drinking the water, and within three weeks, was in remission. The list goes on and on. I hear miracle stories all the time."
What is the longest range of effects you've studied with the structured water units?
"Well, I've been making these units for more than fifteen years, and people that first bought them from me are still happy with them. Nothing has been replaced, or needed fixing. There's no moving parts and no filters to replace, and the lifetime guarantee seems to be working."
What are the other benefits of structured water?
"It tastes better because it structures any chemicals natural or man-made, anything that is toxic, and just surrounds it and releases it. It just passes through your body without effect. So the first immediate effect is your body heals from the polluting chemicals you've been used to. Increased vitality. Less joint and muscle pain. More energy because there's more oxygen. Increased absorption of vitamins, minerals and medications. Vigorous plant growth. Less fertilizer required. It removes existing calcium and aragonite deposits. No hard water spots. Less cleaning required for kitchen and bathroom. Prevents and removes corrosion and increases the life span of pipes, hot water heaters, dishwashers, swamp-coolers, water heating systems, ice makers, etc. The list goes on and on. Less algae growth in ponds and lakes, cleaner fish tanks, healthier pets, improved crops and garden growth, better tasting food. I could go on and on."
Are there any negative effects from the units?
"Well, once you start using this on your garden, be prepared to always use it. Birds and other wildlife will demand it. Plants will demand it. And if you live in an area like Arizona where javelinas run wild, you'll have to protect your garden device from them. They'll find a way to destroy the garden unit. It's like they have to have whatever life force energy is coming from there. And the units will break down in prolonged sunlight. The outside is PVC pipe, so find a way to shelter it. If you're in a cold zone, don't leave water in it when it starts to freeze. Take it inside. Also, at this time, we don't have the units fitted for metric pipes, like Europe. But we're working on that."
So what's next?
"In my research, I want to get to that place where no one has been. Where there are no words. There's nothing you can't do if you have enough money and you have people that aren't limited.
"Take what you know and be in joy. That will catapult us into what we can do to make a difference. We have to be ready for that. In my journey, the greatest propulsion is taking action. There are organizations all over the world where there are think tanks. But the truth is in action."
For a YouTube Video on Clayton Nolte and structured water, go to: www.youtube.com/watch
To order your structured water unit, email: claytonnolte@gmail.com
For fun with 10 pointed stars, water channeling, information from the Spirit of Water and ways of energizing water, go to: www.SpiritOfWater.org
In love, joy and gratitude,
Phoenix Rising Star
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Re: Structured Water: the 10 pointed star in Sacred Geometry
Thu, June 4, 2009 - 1:54 PMwasn't emoto's "work" debunked as being kinda like faked... -
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Thu, June 4, 2009 - 2:03 PMThe idea of 'debunking' has now been debunked.. :) -
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Re: Structured Water: the 10 pointed star in Sacred Geometry
Thu, June 4, 2009 - 2:22 PMyou mean you are in favour of total credibility in the face of the PR lies that cover up the awful truth about what kinda torture emoto's evil lackeys abused the water with in order to come up with a few blandly cosmetic shots of snowflakes whilst pretending they were generated by happy thoughts of puppies frollicking in summer valleys filled with daisies and cute bugs that don't bite...?
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Thu, June 4, 2009 - 5:30 PM"Structured water" is the same thing as "living water" which there's actually allot about if you do a Google search.
Victor Schauberger investigated flowing water forms in Nature and made some significant discoveries now termed "Vortex Technology",including the revitalization of water through contra posto votices,illustrated called FLOWFORMS.
These shutes for creating countervortices are now manufactured in several countries under different names.
Schauberger said the worst thing you could do with water was to make it go through a straight pipe. There are now copper pipes available that make the water spiral as it flows through. This technology is being investigated in my area to remediate mediocre wine(believe it or not)as well as biodynamic compost teas for garden irrigation and waste water treatment.
Patrick Garretson heads up California Flowforms in Sebastopol...
www.californiaflowforms.org/aboutus.html
His product is fiberglass flowforms although he has made at least one set in collaboration with another friend of mine that has a concrete countertop business bohemianstoneworks.com
I am investigating fabricating flowforms in copper for the wine industry since wine has an ameliorating influence on the taste... -
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Thu, June 4, 2009 - 5:32 PMSorry,I meant COPPER has an ameliorating influence on the taste of wine... -
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Thu, June 4, 2009 - 7:09 PMI also forgot to mention Patrick is on Tribe:
people.tribe.net/0094c70b-...707289f70b
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Sat, June 6, 2009 - 12:33 AMLeslie,
Schauberger's thing was that water SPIRALED as it flowed in Nature and this was key to keeping it "living". the Flow form concept may have been Steiner's I'm not exactly sure. But the Flow Forms are not geometric per se. They are amorphic shapes that GUIDE the flow into eddies and counter rotating vortices,much like a natural brook does. There are many samples of the forms on You tube and also on Patrick's home page on Tribe(the link is below in my previous post).
I highly recommend doing a Google search on Viktor Schauberger though.
He was as brilliant as Tesla,and was an incredible observer of Nature.
His whole treatise on the trout and it's ability to effortlessly propel UP CURRENT and how it could do this is a classic example of a keen and curious mind with heightened observational skills and the ability to translate this biomimicry to practical use...
Check out his designs for a water container (shaped like an egg)that by virtue of it's shape keeps a current flowing within it that keeps the water from going stagnant. the aussies are manufacturing and marketing this product/concept right now,and it has further ramifications for huge water storage tanks because stagnation is a serious and costly problem.It is the sacred geometry aspects of the egg that make it an appropriate container shape for any living liquid...In other words the shape is no accident... -
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Re: Structured Water: the 10 pointed star in Sacred Geometry
Sat, June 6, 2009 - 12:49 AMthe orphic egg is no accident - it's the seed of tragedy... aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh!!!!!!!!!!!!!
www.youtube.com/watch
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Re: Structured Water: the 10 pointed star in Sacred Geometry
Sat, June 6, 2009 - 12:34 AMyou could buy these gadgets and do some reverse engineering... ;)
www.schauberger.co.uk/vortexj...html#jug -
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Sat, June 6, 2009 - 12:37 AMTrue,you could.
I've been figuring a way to shape copper pipe so the water spirals as it passes through it,and then I found it on line. someone had already done it and was manufacturing it... -
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Sat, June 6, 2009 - 9:38 AMWho is making the inner-spirally copper pipe? -
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Sat, June 6, 2009 - 10:10 PMI honestly can't remember but I think it was an Australian firm.
This is a U.K.site that sells many of Schauberger's designs.
www.schauberger.co.uk/vortexjug.shtml
Leslie,
I used a TRIP HAMMER to crimp copper tubing in a spiral. I believe all you really need to do is encourage the water to move in a spiral within the tube to realize the effects...
One of the problems has been that it's very expensive and complicated to test a device to see if the water is really affected.
This technology is so new and not clearly understood so that no one has yet devised a simple way to see if the water is indeed changed.
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Sat, June 6, 2009 - 11:30 PMIt's tedious testing out in the absence of a lab......There's paper chromatography, which I've never done (would require adding an organic agent to the water to see how it is affected-wetted by the treated water vs. tap water or other controls), .... and simply growing sets of plants grown with the differing waters, which takes a lot of time and organized thinking. The taste test is good, but not more than as a subjective impression. I know people who are experts in esoteric science and water technologies, but until I set up a system that gets their interest, they tend to be too busy with their own experiments to give me much attention.
So the copper tubing you used is sufficiently big that it took a trip hammer to crimp it into a spiral? It makes sense that the bigger the tubing, the more space for spiraling, and if that tubing is crimped into a spiral that would encourage the water to spinflow. -
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Sun, June 7, 2009 - 3:34 AMwouldn't it just take the water (flowing as it normally does in a pipe) along a spiral path...? -
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Sun, June 7, 2009 - 7:09 AMthere's quite a bit of relevant info in this video: community.infiniteeureka.com/vid...2282
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Sun, June 7, 2009 - 8:08 PMThat 's a great site Nick,
And Vidas veron,copper is preferred for those same reasons for the wine industry.
Orpheus,yes it is the spiral action of water (and most other liquids) that regenerates,and yes it can be a simple as shaping the inside of the tube. How you do that is another question.
Leslie,this is the one of the best sites for comprehensive knowledge about Viktor Schauberger's inventions etc.
www.frank.germano.com/viktors...er_2.htm
Votex technology is in it's nascent stage and many observable aspects are truly tantalizing.
Some facts ,the reasons for which have not been explained,have drawn my interest;
At the inside of a vortex the temperature drops considerably.
Schauberger spun a volume of water inside an EGG SHAPED container at high RPM (I think it was 3200) and there was a measurable output of electric charge at the equator of the container.
Schauberger knew that water at 39 degrees F was at it's densest. He was thus able to utilize this fact by transporting huge amounts of very large timber great distances through specially designed and constructed sluices(like flumes). The heavy timber was able to be floated by the colder and denser water...
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Re: Structured Water: the 10 pointed star in Sacred Geometry
Sun, June 7, 2009 - 8:28 AMThe thing about copper that most people don't realize is that it is an Algaecide, meaning that it kills Algae, it is Anti-Bacterial and an Anti-Fungal. When water is past over or through copper, it's a cleaning agent and our ancient heritage knew this... You can still find ancient natural springs in Greece and other parts of the world that have a copper tube or copper mouth at the mouth of the spring... Modern man even use to use copper pipe in our house until the invention of PVC(which by the way, adds toxins to your water).
So any water that is past over or through copper has a benificial effect to the pureity of the water and the patina that occurs natually on the copper helps purify the water.
Notice that a "distiller" uses copper tubing to distill spirits. Even in brewing beer, a copper vat is still the preferred vessel over stainless steel in making a quality germ free beer.
I think copper goes a long way in the "structure of water" over any shape or design of a purifier... Activated charcoal also is benificial to purifying water or "activating" water into a pure state(grin)...
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Mon, June 8, 2009 - 10:42 AMsilver does too
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Tue, June 16, 2009 - 1:52 AMIve recently been letting tap water breathe for a day or so before using....
and get sunlight also..
cant smell the chlorine in it then, at least..
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Tue, June 16, 2009 - 6:17 AMNot to start fear or panic...
I avoid the tap water here.
There have been several main line-breaks, ie, a huge 14" pipe of "treated potable" water is seen to have jerked and ripped itself in half when all the sudden, all the 30000 tourist in town decided to flush at the same time....
Not only do I live in one of the oldest cities in america, where there are more piles of medicinal mercury, storage tanks from various gas stations, but we have the navy, the airforce, dow chemical, coal imports, ships that go up our rivers with open oil disposal pipes....
etc
I don't think the "healing the rivers" ceremony we have every years is going to clean our water.
To avoid plastic water bottles, I carry my own cleanable glass vessel around, and have a 5 gallon storage reservoui that I keep my steam distilled water in.
We refill once a week, sometimes twice. A simple bike ride to the grocery store.
I can't stand the tap's taste of soil in my water these days (snobby).
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