can anyone help???

topic posted Tue, November 13, 2007 - 5:22 PM by  ry ry
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i have a question i am hoping someone out there has wondered before, so here it is...........if you follow the edges of the great pyramid (there are four) down the edge of the pyramid at an angle but then keep following the same line down into the earth until you hit a spot on the crust of the earth on the other side, where do you end up? there should be five corresponding places on the earth directly related the the great pyramid, 4 places that correspond with the diagonal edges and one place that corresponds with the middle or top of the pyramid as you follow it straight down through pyramid and through the earth till you hit the other side, if anyone can help i would much appreciate it! hopefully i was able to explain it good enough!

thanks, ryan
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    Tue, November 13, 2007 - 9:53 PM
    Hi Ry Ry, I don't think your question was a significant factor when locating and constructing the pyramid. It has been shown that the angle and th resonant frequency of the main pyramid (Cheops) is 51.1 hertz and 51.1 degrees. The location on the Earth is the only place where an alignment with a known constellation (Syrius) occurs once per year. Of further note is that the 'air shafts' also have timely astronomical alignments and Cheops forms part of a template of pyramids which matches many of th stars in the Orion Constellation. Many are beginning to speculate that it is a Star Gate. I recommend you go to the Rense.com website and liten to an archived interview with Dr. John DeSalvo who speaks of the recent findings of one Joe Parr. It will blow you mind....If it's a tomb, I am a fuzzy wabbit!

    Another group feels that the ancient monoloiths were constructed by ancient humans about 13,500 years ago to determine where they were in the universe. That's a bit of a stretch, but it is based on many cross referenced texts. I know that the history that I was taught was bogus, so for me the jury is still out.
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      Wed, November 14, 2007 - 12:39 AM
      thanks for the extra info! sounds good! but i still want to know what those points are, not because i care about how the pyramid was built or why, but just because these five points are important for my own personal growth/work. anyone else got any ideas?

      paz, ry
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        Wed, November 14, 2007 - 1:10 AM
        Not sure it's even possible to do...
        The earth is not a perfect sphere (it might be easier for your quest if this were so).
        We are on an oblate spheroid if memory serves...
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        Wed, November 14, 2007 - 3:35 AM
        so I'd guess it shouldn't be a difficult calculation given all the wild speculative calculations that have been instigated in trying to find some system of order to which the pyramids might be alligned...

        www.halexandria.org/dward824.htm

        doesn't seem very coherent but from a quick glance it looks like beijing and angkor wat and sites in australia and argentina are suggested as giza antipodal points...

        From the Bible, Isaiah 11-12 (King James Version):

        And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.

        & Revelation 7-1:

        And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.
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          Wed, November 14, 2007 - 5:00 AM
          thank you!! that is very helpful information, i am not sure if it is exactly what i am looking for, do know any more on this subject?
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            Wed, November 14, 2007 - 5:24 AM
            from my limited erratic research the theorists tend to see the pyramids as having an immaterial flipside rather than being the pyramidal tip of an infinitely extensible immaterial pyramid that has points popping out the 4 corners and zapping out into space but then again so much speculation has gone on that it is improbable that anything you can think of hasn't been extrapolated by some old mage or other...

            from my heretic POV sacred geometry is differentiated from geometry by the organic psychological aspects that warp space/time which would mean that the four corners will correspond to innumerable mythic geographic locations whilst also representing your own localised personal and social space as in the thing and the spin etc...

            what do you think/feel you are looking for...?
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              Wed, November 14, 2007 - 12:39 PM
              thank you orpheus for your input, you have helped shed some light for sure! i understand that it is mostly thought of as a reflection of itself whether it be in or above the ground, but for some reason i have this strong urge lately to find these five points in there exact location, i don't study the pyramid or even sacred geometry, but recently found myself connected to both very intensely during a meditation where i found myself at one of these points. since then i have joined various tribes and asked the same question, hoping someone else has all ready done the research. what i have found is a lot of people telling me its not important, which is odd to me? sometimes its hard to understand where this stuff comes from and why its important, however in the past i have found much growth and success in following these obscure visions!
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                Wed, November 14, 2007 - 12:46 PM
                yeah it's strange how some virtual allignments are deemed significant and some aren't...

                there is something about a mutable liquid crystal at the earth's core too...

                or maybe the irish have the answer...?

                youtube.com/watch
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          Wed, November 14, 2007 - 10:12 AM
          orpheus, the references I have given have done their homework and over a decade of continuous research. I am not clear what your references are suggesting but for me it's very difficult to find the corners of a basketball. LOL

          The orbit and orientation of the Earth are very steady and predictable. Let's hope it stays that way beyond 2012! To place an object on the Earth meaningfully suggests a connection beyond itself though it is interesting that a series of objects might form some sort of a circuit or multi-nodal array of points. Consider that the placement of an object on the surface of an obect floating in outer space must consider the trajectory of two moving objects and time. The calculations are truly astronimical. I woul say that many of the speculations are intelligent attempts at a very complex calculation that is, for the record, very nearly figured out according to what I have read and heard.

          Your link below affirms a theory by one Michael Tsarion won concurs that about 13,500 years ago an alien race began a hybridization project and bilt the monoliths to actualize their location in the galaxy. It makes sense that these monuments might relate to each other like a giant sundial though with geometries that animate in erlation to crtain alignments. Joe Parr's works confirms that between the dates of DEC 13-15 as I recall, there are measurable frequency fluctuations at the apex of the pyramid that he descibed as tachyon activity with a vector (that is momentum and DIRECTION), and that this did not happen every year but nearly so. What does this imply? These are portals, etheric lighthouses or navigational technologies.

          John Reid, a Cymatic researcher and acoustician placed a membranne across the sarcophagus in the King's chamber and applied various frequencies until several different symbols appeared in the powder on the membrane. The symbols were hieroglyphic-like and looked like actual Egyptian text. This may not be significant beyond the integrity of the entire complex where sacred geometrical proportions reveal a cosmic language inherent to the energy that gives rise to life itself. On the other hand, that might be life changing information if propoerly understood and integrated! It is clear to me that the mechancial paradigm must end... Maybe we should call him Sir Isaac Oldton!
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            Wed, November 14, 2007 - 10:43 AM
            you square the circle and then you have some nice designer seating for the cardinal angels... hahaha

            didn't tsarion say that ireland was the cradle of civilisation...?
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    Wed, November 14, 2007 - 8:17 AM
    a worthwhile study? maybe, it could show that pyramids a the bringing to gether of distant opposite temples...
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      Wed, November 14, 2007 - 4:33 PM
      someone else just figured this one out for me, check it out!!

      From page 110.

      "This Egyptian area is the North pole of the unity-consciousness grid. On the other side of the planet, out in the South Pacific in the Tahitian islands, is a little island called 'Moorea', where the South pole of the grid is located."

      images.google.co.uk/images

      I really suggest you read the whole book... Take what agrees and discard the rest... LOTS of good stuff in there.

      In-joy
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        Wed, November 14, 2007 - 4:53 PM
        so i just realized this.........now there are four more points i want to know..........
        so if the great pyramid is the north pole, and moorea the south, if you draw a pyramid through the earth from both points you get a star tetrahedron inside the earth, thus making 10 points total, with the pyramid and moorea being the top and bottom leaving now eight other points i am curious about? thanks for all the help!
        paz
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          Thu, November 15, 2007 - 11:11 AM
          Ry Ry, you are referring to your questionable speculations af if these are a foundation to build upon. Why is the great pyramid the North Pole? What is already know makes this an irrelevant assumption right? The geometries you speak of (star tetrahedron) would require a perfect sphere which the Earth is not! Trust me, I am wide open to possibilities but they must tie up somehow and my thinking is a necklace or grid of temples must have something physically in common and there are no other temples in the world with the perfection of Cheops....that we know of! When the ice melts, Atlantis will be found? If we were talking lighbulbs here, it seems we would be lighting the room with a spotlightlight, a flashlight and a candle suggesting the creators were not the same people. A ring of energy beyond the natural field of the Earth would be atmostpheric and not terrestrial. The geometries interface etheric energy OR, in the case of stone temples and monuments like Stonehenge and Teotihuacan, the orientations mark a celebration of a particular star date.

          I feel as if you are imposing an idea where it does to fit. I'll be listening....
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            Thu, November 15, 2007 - 6:50 PM
            Atlantis has possible BEEN found...
            Found off the western tip of Cuba ,almost 2 years ago,by a marvelous side scan sonar expert and scientist(Paulina Zelitsky) mapping the ocean bottom looking for oil. She found a city in 1200 feet of water and used rov's to search the site.There are stone pyramids down there and METAL ,similar to Plato's description of Atlantis.with huge architectural columns (dressed by man) and a reoccurring glyph which is called the "American cross",because it's been seen in many other places in the Caribbean and in caves off Cuba both submerged and above water. It looks suspiciously like the Toyota insignia (two intersecting ellipses...
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              Sat, November 17, 2007 - 11:54 AM
              Stephen, very interestig. I had not heard of tis though I do recall an old episode of In Search Of with Dr. Spock (Leonard Nimoy) in the early 1980's, while standing in the Bimini Island area discussing a find that was very strange. it was a stainless steel or platinum rod with a ball on the end (large grapefruit to bowling ball size) like those lamps that used to be made that anchor behind a couch for example and dangle from the weight of the lamp over your head. Further, the sphere was magnetised.

              According to Tsarion, Atlantis was the Capital City of a series of islands that remained after a great deluge of water that submerged land that stretched from New Zealand to the Caribbean. The island he claimed were off the cost of Modern Great Britain to the North. He claimed the water was from a after planet named Tiamet was destroyed and eventually fell to the Earth. He claimed there are descriptions of fish falling from the sky! Strange yes, but possible I suppose.

              Was the City exposed or buried in sediment?
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                Sat, November 17, 2007 - 5:35 PM
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                  Mon, November 19, 2007 - 11:20 PM
                  Stephen hi and thanks for the link. I must say that I spent a few hours on Saturay reading through several different interviews with this research team. Amazing find but curious logic though...how is it that an earthquake, or two crashing meteors creating the force of ten gazillion nuclear bombs that cause an island to sink, somehow, miraculaously, allow the buildings to remain intact? Doesn't rising water make more sense?

                  Also, I have discovered another site called RED ICE Creatins that includes amazing interviews with serious alternative researchers including a Mr. John Farrell who has written a book called COSMIC WAR and has made some very interesting assumptions from the rereading of ancient Sumerian texts. HE found repeated references to an object called the Tablets of Destiny with accompanying descriptions that suggest the possessors would have incredible power and be invincible. This tablet was stolen several times by the gods each time resulting in a war. Tiamet warred with Marduk, Anzou warred with Enlel which caused the meeting of a council of Elders to decide upon a plan of how to get this item back. Minerta agreed and once acquired, he hid several of the tablets and possibly destroyed several others to keep them out of the hands of the bad guys.

                  Farrell deduced that these tablets were like the software that made the hardware work and theorized that it is known that items were removed fro the grand chamber of the Great Pyramid in Egypt which may be the hardware, or possibly some other pyramid or monolith capable of become electromagnetically activated. When I head this I realized that this is the story of the entire Stargate SG-1 television series where they eventually find Atlantis underwater with an array of advanced technology that must be learned but some can only be activated by particular DNA sequences which ties in ncely to these myts that are being reread ss something less than fiction.

                  My post above about John Reid's work and Jor Parr's work have already shown that the pyramid exhibits electromagnetic propoerties and is activated on it's own as well by human intervention. He further speculates that the looting of the Iraqi museums by the Americans and Germans, all which have been meticulously catalogues strongly suggests that they are looking for something! When you think of Atas and hear the name Atlantis, or think of Thor's hammer these are always accompanied by thunderbolts. It's very interesting to consider that the myths may have been based on real technology.

                  The geometrical considerations of this thread are significant but this is only half the picture. A wall outlet is no use unless you have something to plug into it.
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                    Tue, November 20, 2007 - 12:12 AM
                    Rising water DOES make allot of sense.
                    But I think it has been scientifically proven that Cuba and much of the region has alternately been submerged and exposed several times whatever the cause.
                    The thing that fascinates me is that " there is metal down there" ,direct quote from Dr. Paulina Neritsky. And the strata is dated at 12,500 years ago...NEOLITHIC. This might change our idea of what the Neolithic was like...
                    National Geographic was ready to fund her research and expedition but our GOVERNMENT disallowed that because of her ties to Cuba.
                    And there are only a handful of research vessels capable of actually doing extensive close up observation in manned submersibles.
                    I think it could be the most significant archaeological find in recorded history...
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                      Tue, November 20, 2007 - 11:28 AM
                      Did you hear about the perfectly round metal spheres that were found in 3.2 million year old strata in Africa as I recall?
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                    Tue, November 20, 2007 - 10:48 AM
                    I think the pyramids in Egypt were definitely used for something other than graves!
                    After reading about how mass effects gravity, even when trying to find the Earth's center, and you are too near a mountain, or some large mass, it will pull the pendulum off center... So, a perfect geometry like the pyramid must harmonize the gravity, and isolate ions, also, shielding from space rays, similar to the way particle colliders need to be deep underground.
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                      Tue, November 20, 2007 - 11:25 AM
                      <<< So, a perfect geometry like the pyramid must harmonize the gravity, and isolate ions, also, shielding from space rays, similar to the way particle colliders need to be deep underground.>>>

                      The only other comparable shape I have come across that can do this is the toroid as proven by the informal math genius Marko Rodin. He figured out how to wind a motor based on the geomtrical principles derived from a toroid (donut) and along with Hewlitt Packard verified that the doubling nature of the math resulted in the doubling of energy output from the motor. He said that on the surface of the windings there are many little energy vortices that amplify the primary windings all which combine around his 'number nine' located at the geometrical center which is the invisible and continuous line running through the center of the configuration. Euclidean math enfolds and abstracts and is a fragmentary conception, but this geometry, apparently not unlike the Giza pyramids, modulates the environment relative to it's harmonic shape. Amazingly, the Giza pyramid's angle and harmonic frequency are both 51.1 degrees and 51.1 Hz respectively. That is no coincidence.
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                      Tue, November 20, 2007 - 11:27 AM
                      Another aspect that seems relevant with the (Egyptian )pyramids is, we know they were originally sheathed with a polished REFLECTIVE surface. And considering the angle of the sides,must have served as a BEACON or PROJECTOR for either light (from the sun,moon, or some other source), or some other wave form or energy...
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                        Tue, November 20, 2007 - 11:35 AM
                        Jesus, I made a significant typo error...
                        The side scan sonar expert who discovered the submerged city off Cuba is Paulina Zelitsky.
                        Sorry all.
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                          Tue, November 20, 2007 - 12:11 PM
                          Walkin,
                          Can you give me a link to that information?
                          Having made a fairly accurate metal sphere myself:
                          people.tribe.net/stephenfi...5d31c15300
                          I can tell you it is no easy feat...
                          I'd be very interested to see these spheres you describe. Was the metal identified ?
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                            Tue, November 20, 2007 - 2:37 PM
                            This seems like a pragmatic analysis of the sphere controversy...
                            www.talkorigins.org/faqs/mom...eres.html
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                              Thu, November 22, 2007 - 12:53 AM
                              I heard of these from an ever far stranger account that one of the Moon's aroud Jupiter, as described by Hoagland and photographed by NASA, is not round and has three grooves running around the middle areas with hexagonal craters. I have yet to investigate. Joseph Farell has written a book called Cosmic Wars with some very interesting ideas. I listened to an interview online and he is the course of both of these comments.

                              The arguments over the orign of the grooved spheres in Africa seem a bit odd. They could easily identify with a microscope if there are fragments of any other material in the grooves indicating its artificial nature. Usually, people use materials that are harder than the material being cut and anything softer than diamonds would leave microscopic fragments. I am also wondering if the grooves are parallel?

                              [www.kmatthews.org.uk/cult_ar...5.html]. This link shows an image and they are indeed parallel. Maybe some sort of acid rain etched the surface at different time intervals?

                              They also mention that one of them is hollow with spongy material on the inside but say no more about this material. Spongy after 2.8 million years and how hollow? That requires a form of centripetal force?

                              Lastly, they claim the spheres are natural but why so many (any) round in one area? Maybe the material was airborne and rolled downhill upon contact with the Earth when enough matter gathered to gain some momentum? These had to be formed by motion as no sediment would ever take that shape. Alternately, maybe these were organic and become petrified?
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                                Thu, November 22, 2007 - 9:23 AM
                                One plausible explanation for the grooves( since there are only a couple of them I think),is that they were embellished by hand by an indigenous artist ,either for ritual or simply as found art.
                                I can tell you that there is a strong impulse with those of us afflicted with the Art Disease to embellish visually just about anything we get our hands on,ESPECIALLY if it is a unique natural anomaly.
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                                  Thu, November 22, 2007 - 11:23 PM
                                  ...and whlie working on the lines of the spheres, the inner alien's extant energy burst forth frying the artist to dust. The ball dropped and settled amongst the hundreds of others to be discovered 2.8 million years later. Now it's figured out!

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